jgh_res
12-17 07:44 AM
Are you trying to be a legal immigrant????? GC is not your right and you are here by choice.
Gym, yoga, work, birds - these things are just escape from reality. The reality is pretty grim. Imagine a new wanna be immigrant. He/she has basically two choices:
1. Ask for asylum, come up with some story, try to get interview passed. If works - then that's it. If not, ask judge for work permit (usually they grant). And go through hearings, appeals, etc. etc. - takes total 5 years. Meanwhile, work whenever you want. make money, find a girl (or a guy for girls), marry - get your GC. At worst case scenario - you get caught, put on deportation, you cash your credit cards - and leave with $200k in your pocket. So, at worst - you get deported - which is fair.
2. You read the law, you see that your only legal option is EB and you spend 6-8 years going through H1/LC/140/485, etc. Lose money, pay lawyers, pay taxes, miss opportunities. Even after you get GC, some douche bag IO might have a bad day, review your LC/140 and revoke it at any time until you get citizenship for some little reason. Even citizenship may be revoked because of "fraud". How many of you have LC done completely honestly, with interviewing all candidates and stuff like that? Meanwhile, if your company/lawyer screwed something up - you get deported, and you lost 10 best years of your life for nothing. In best case scenario, you get GC - which is fair.
So in 1st case we have fair-win situation, in second - lose-fair. So, can anybody give me ONE reason why we chose 2nd way? Please don't start with "good karma" and things like that. But for real? What is that? What message USCIS is sending us? America is a country of law or a country of criminal opportunists?
To me personally, this immigration thing is just a matter of principle, I'm not leaving without GC, period. I'm ready to have any of my stuff revoked, I'm ready for court battles - at the end I will marry a citizen. Reason? I don't wanna feel being a loser.
Gym, yoga, work, birds - these things are just escape from reality. The reality is pretty grim. Imagine a new wanna be immigrant. He/she has basically two choices:
1. Ask for asylum, come up with some story, try to get interview passed. If works - then that's it. If not, ask judge for work permit (usually they grant). And go through hearings, appeals, etc. etc. - takes total 5 years. Meanwhile, work whenever you want. make money, find a girl (or a guy for girls), marry - get your GC. At worst case scenario - you get caught, put on deportation, you cash your credit cards - and leave with $200k in your pocket. So, at worst - you get deported - which is fair.
2. You read the law, you see that your only legal option is EB and you spend 6-8 years going through H1/LC/140/485, etc. Lose money, pay lawyers, pay taxes, miss opportunities. Even after you get GC, some douche bag IO might have a bad day, review your LC/140 and revoke it at any time until you get citizenship for some little reason. Even citizenship may be revoked because of "fraud". How many of you have LC done completely honestly, with interviewing all candidates and stuff like that? Meanwhile, if your company/lawyer screwed something up - you get deported, and you lost 10 best years of your life for nothing. In best case scenario, you get GC - which is fair.
So in 1st case we have fair-win situation, in second - lose-fair. So, can anybody give me ONE reason why we chose 2nd way? Please don't start with "good karma" and things like that. But for real? What is that? What message USCIS is sending us? America is a country of law or a country of criminal opportunists?
To me personally, this immigration thing is just a matter of principle, I'm not leaving without GC, period. I'm ready to have any of my stuff revoked, I'm ready for court battles - at the end I will marry a citizen. Reason? I don't wanna feel being a loser.
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cagedcactus
08-19 07:37 AM
I'm ready to join in the law suit....
Count me in too.... 10 years of slavery is enough for me....
Count me in too.... 10 years of slavery is enough for me....
unitednations
03-07 01:52 PM
Your Comment on H2B is only right about H2B and doesn't apply on EB green cards. We are people who came on H1B & our Green Cards were sponsored by US employers, we have our Labor & I-140 approved and we are waiting for Visa number assigned to our applications. So you could be comparing apples to peaches...Immigration policies had been hostile in past 12 years and will continue to be same indefinitely...Now our choice is sit back, lie low, keep watching & read Visa predictions indefinitely- may be another decade or 2- or take some steps, which I think, are not going to face much opposition. Also regarding reason behind so many Indians is, that 200K H1B between 1999 and 2002. Even if visa cap is lifted for 2 years that big hump will be crossed, it may smoothen the Visa allocations for Indians.
Some people are floating in Utopia.
Most of us are here on on the ground.
Keep watching the forums and see how many denials have been posted and we are just at the beginning stages... There are many more denials; revocations; dol audits, arrests coming.
While all this is going on; you can continue to push the envelope and try to increase EB greencards, get rid of country quota and loosen up everything.
Some people are floating in Utopia.
Most of us are here on on the ground.
Keep watching the forums and see how many denials have been posted and we are just at the beginning stages... There are many more denials; revocations; dol audits, arrests coming.
While all this is going on; you can continue to push the envelope and try to increase EB greencards, get rid of country quota and loosen up everything.
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leonimish
07-06 04:42 PM
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Order Date: Friday 07/06/2007
Delivery On: Tuesday 07/10/2007
Gift Message: Thank you for giving us Hope for few hours on July
1st and taking it away. We enjoyed the ride and the pain. Wish you all the best for future Visa Bulletins.
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samrat_bhargava_vihari
06-12 09:30 AM
Fortunately, my PD became current on May 1
Did you get your receipt?
Did you get your receipt?
sss9i
08-27 09:04 PM
Bump up
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vinabath
04-23 04:32 PM
my opinions in bold
Both parties ( employee and employers) bend letter and spirit of law. Think fake resumes, references, experiences on employee side. Think no salary on bench, lack minimum professional decorum, professional ethics on employers side. But overall my sympathies are with employee and more so in this case.
-- How can an employer pay salary on bench when employee wants to be an independent contractor(80%) on w-2
In > 90% of cases I have seen, Desi employers dont operate on good faith. A good example is punitive damages. The employer does h1B, incurs about 5K cost and expects the employee to serve out 12 months. The exit clause is 25K. Its downright silly and precisely what causes employee anxiety. Instead if it is prorated for stay, it would be fair for every one involved.
-- 25k because its just not about H-1b costs. Its business. Business needs to make profits and be healthy. Business dont want H-1B employees who would like to stay for less than an year. It affects other H-1B employees and their immigration process. Businesses hate to ask H-1Bs from INS and cancel H-1s. It puts a blotch on the Business. Afterall INS give H-1B approval hoping that the employee works with the employer for atleast 3 years .
Hoarding I-140, labor certificatio etc and giving no visibility is another deal breaker.I just dont get it.
you are right but this is also forced by H-1B employees.
Some one commented its a small world, apologize if necessary blah blah. If, for a minute the employer in this case thinks in positive way, ( My former employee would be at this place, couuld be in a position where I can sell more, i could get referral for new employees) he wouldnt be doing something like this which downright irresponsible and can cause significant damage to his shareholders. Being a small world goes on both sides.
Thats pretty optimistic and long term thinking.
For a techie, clilent is king. I would never displease the ultimate beneficiary of my services. Even after my project is over, I keep in touch, do occasional free consulting all in hope of building my network. But for employers like these, who add no value, i have no sympathies.
Both parties ( employee and employers) bend letter and spirit of law. Think fake resumes, references, experiences on employee side. Think no salary on bench, lack minimum professional decorum, professional ethics on employers side. But overall my sympathies are with employee and more so in this case.
-- How can an employer pay salary on bench when employee wants to be an independent contractor(80%) on w-2
In > 90% of cases I have seen, Desi employers dont operate on good faith. A good example is punitive damages. The employer does h1B, incurs about 5K cost and expects the employee to serve out 12 months. The exit clause is 25K. Its downright silly and precisely what causes employee anxiety. Instead if it is prorated for stay, it would be fair for every one involved.
-- 25k because its just not about H-1b costs. Its business. Business needs to make profits and be healthy. Business dont want H-1B employees who would like to stay for less than an year. It affects other H-1B employees and their immigration process. Businesses hate to ask H-1Bs from INS and cancel H-1s. It puts a blotch on the Business. Afterall INS give H-1B approval hoping that the employee works with the employer for atleast 3 years .
Hoarding I-140, labor certificatio etc and giving no visibility is another deal breaker.I just dont get it.
you are right but this is also forced by H-1B employees.
Some one commented its a small world, apologize if necessary blah blah. If, for a minute the employer in this case thinks in positive way, ( My former employee would be at this place, couuld be in a position where I can sell more, i could get referral for new employees) he wouldnt be doing something like this which downright irresponsible and can cause significant damage to his shareholders. Being a small world goes on both sides.
Thats pretty optimistic and long term thinking.
For a techie, clilent is king. I would never displease the ultimate beneficiary of my services. Even after my project is over, I keep in touch, do occasional free consulting all in hope of building my network. But for employers like these, who add no value, i have no sympathies.
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santhi_krishna
08-13 11:06 PM
Congrats! Can you please tell us where your I140 was approved from. Are the checks cashed?
My I140 is pending with NSC since Jan 2007. My attorney issued the checks, So I don't know whether the checks cashed or not.
My I140 is pending with NSC since Jan 2007. My attorney issued the checks, So I don't know whether the checks cashed or not.
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minimalist
01-31 01:17 PM
nousername,If your would-be employer had sponsored the visa,it got selected and then he has to not hire you on Oct1st because of his business not doing so well, what would you do?
Ideally your employer should rescind your offer and buy you a ticket back home.
But in the IT industry, that is the reason most people still work with desi employer, even thouh they know that they will be taken advantage of.
Is it illegal? Yes. But there is a risk for the people involved.
Also, when someone tries to land H1 for the first time, it is really tough to find an employer who can apply 6 months in advance.Most american companies don't even go through the hassle unless they are hiring for non-IT positions. Then you have companies like Infosys who apply in bunches and keep them ready for the business they are expecting in future. Try and argue with them that they shouldn't do that as many people who have jobs lined up right now will not get H1s.
In my opinion most people who are on H1 n IT with american companies, either got in there via OPT- H1 or H1 transfer.
You gotta do what you gotta do. If you keep thinking about all deserving people,you would never take a step forward. At everypoint in life you will have certain options and every option woul cause some or other discomfort. Unless you are involved in clearcut criminal activity, everything else is fair, in my opinion.
Minimalist.. to begin with, I am not here to judge you or anyone else and I don't think sledge ever had those intentions. Hence, please don't take any of the comments personally.
The original post by nehas was a question to which almost everyone, including sledge responded, trying to help her. The common answer was that she (not he) needs to switch back to H4 as she is already out of status. My orignal post very clearly indecates the reasons why I believe Neha is already out of status. Here is the link http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23395
After I answered Neha's question, which I know is the correct answer, I asked her a simple question i.e. is it ethical to apply for H1 visa when a person does not have a job offer, especially when the entire legal immigrant community knows that for last few years due to the visa cap it is very hard to obtain a new H1 even if you have a valid job offer.
I totally agree with you that no one on the face of this earth is a pure saint but ours (legal immigrants) is a small hardworking community, which most often understand each others pains, and that's the reason this forum exist.
Now, I ask you in the most humble way, what would you have done if your would-be employer had sponsored the visa but due to the lottery your application was never even selected for processing. To top that you learn from all over the world that companies like Wipro, Satyam and desi body shops applied for H1's, which they probably won't even use. Don't get me wrong.. I am a proud Indian and proud what these companies have archived..
Ideally your employer should rescind your offer and buy you a ticket back home.
But in the IT industry, that is the reason most people still work with desi employer, even thouh they know that they will be taken advantage of.
Is it illegal? Yes. But there is a risk for the people involved.
Also, when someone tries to land H1 for the first time, it is really tough to find an employer who can apply 6 months in advance.Most american companies don't even go through the hassle unless they are hiring for non-IT positions. Then you have companies like Infosys who apply in bunches and keep them ready for the business they are expecting in future. Try and argue with them that they shouldn't do that as many people who have jobs lined up right now will not get H1s.
In my opinion most people who are on H1 n IT with american companies, either got in there via OPT- H1 or H1 transfer.
You gotta do what you gotta do. If you keep thinking about all deserving people,you would never take a step forward. At everypoint in life you will have certain options and every option woul cause some or other discomfort. Unless you are involved in clearcut criminal activity, everything else is fair, in my opinion.
Minimalist.. to begin with, I am not here to judge you or anyone else and I don't think sledge ever had those intentions. Hence, please don't take any of the comments personally.
The original post by nehas was a question to which almost everyone, including sledge responded, trying to help her. The common answer was that she (not he) needs to switch back to H4 as she is already out of status. My orignal post very clearly indecates the reasons why I believe Neha is already out of status. Here is the link http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23395
After I answered Neha's question, which I know is the correct answer, I asked her a simple question i.e. is it ethical to apply for H1 visa when a person does not have a job offer, especially when the entire legal immigrant community knows that for last few years due to the visa cap it is very hard to obtain a new H1 even if you have a valid job offer.
I totally agree with you that no one on the face of this earth is a pure saint but ours (legal immigrants) is a small hardworking community, which most often understand each others pains, and that's the reason this forum exist.
Now, I ask you in the most humble way, what would you have done if your would-be employer had sponsored the visa but due to the lottery your application was never even selected for processing. To top that you learn from all over the world that companies like Wipro, Satyam and desi body shops applied for H1's, which they probably won't even use. Don't get me wrong.. I am a proud Indian and proud what these companies have archived..
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canant
09-02 03:01 PM
:p
Got a CRIS Notification for EAD Card PRODUCTION dated Sept 2nd for my wife.
EAD receipt Dat: July 23rd
Card Production date: Sept 2nd
They say it will take 30days to get in the mail..
No idea whether it really takes 30 days or less so I can verify actual validity of the EAD card !
I don't know what worked..mailed TSC a letter to expediate.. Also emailed Local Senator and Congressman to expediate my spouse's EAD renewal.
Thanks to the IV Forum !! LONG LIVE !!!
Got a CRIS Notification for EAD Card PRODUCTION dated Sept 2nd for my wife.
EAD receipt Dat: July 23rd
Card Production date: Sept 2nd
They say it will take 30days to get in the mail..
No idea whether it really takes 30 days or less so I can verify actual validity of the EAD card !
I don't know what worked..mailed TSC a letter to expediate.. Also emailed Local Senator and Congressman to expediate my spouse's EAD renewal.
Thanks to the IV Forum !! LONG LIVE !!!
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gccovet
07-29 01:08 PM
gccovet,
no idea at all.
I got another lud today on 765 with another message in mail
Application Type: I765, APPLICATION FOR EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION
Current Status: Card production ordered.
On July 28, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you.
wow... I guess, we can tweak the poetry "...God moves in a mysterious way his wonders to perform...."
" God and USCIS moves in a mysterious way their wonders to perform..."
GCCovet
no idea at all.
I got another lud today on 765 with another message in mail
Application Type: I765, APPLICATION FOR EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION
Current Status: Card production ordered.
On July 28, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you.
wow... I guess, we can tweak the poetry "...God moves in a mysterious way his wonders to perform...."
" God and USCIS moves in a mysterious way their wonders to perform..."
GCCovet
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shakunbansal
09-13 01:10 AM
Seems that very few people have recieved anything who have filed between 4th and 16th aug.
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makemygc
08-01 01:11 PM
My i-140 no. starts with SRC 06, is this also from Texas?
If you have I140 receipt with you, just look at the bottom. It will tell you if it was from NSC or TSC.
If you have I140 receipt with you, just look at the bottom. It will tell you if it was from NSC or TSC.
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vjverma
07-19 10:07 PM
count me in for a 100 as well.
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sankar_203
04-21 10:32 AM
i guess ur fine. My collegue here won similar case in NJ. I am sure they'll pay u if u put little pressure on them. I would think twice before i report him to DOL & DHS only the reason being it might affect all other employees that are currently working for your previous company. If they don't pay u, i guess u have no choice to go for a fomal complaint.
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SivaMayam
08-14 09:02 AM
Dear Friends,
I would greatly appreiciate if you all would be kind enough to include the service center which issued the receipts along the filing date in your postings.
Thanks
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I would greatly appreiciate if you all would be kind enough to include the service center which issued the receipts along the filing date in your postings.
Thanks
~S
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05-07 05:35 AM
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amitjoey
07-10 04:44 PM
I have arranged to send the flowers so they reach USCIS on 10 July.
Incidentally, there was a townhall meeting with Senator Bob Casey in Pittsburgh. Thankfully i got to speak with him and personally put forth our story of endless waits for a greencard. Am not sure if it will genrate any tangible action from his end, but it certainly drew attention of the public present there, his staff and mostly importantly the Senator's mindshare.
Let's keep this effort on..
Thanks for your effort.
Incidentally, there was a townhall meeting with Senator Bob Casey in Pittsburgh. Thankfully i got to speak with him and personally put forth our story of endless waits for a greencard. Am not sure if it will genrate any tangible action from his end, but it certainly drew attention of the public present there, his staff and mostly importantly the Senator's mindshare.
Let's keep this effort on..
Thanks for your effort.
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garybanz
11-21 01:34 PM
Lets us all Pray and hope for the best for Mehul
May God give strength to your family and you to deal with this situation. I don't think any of us can do any thing to ease your family and your pain, but we will pray for you. You have all our wishes and support.
Regards
May God give strength to your family and you to deal with this situation. I don't think any of us can do any thing to ease your family and your pain, but we will pray for you. You have all our wishes and support.
Regards
gc_peshwa
02-09 01:11 AM
Bump up. I plan to donate later. Too tired right now after a long day!
mrajatish
05-01 09:41 AM
Yes, Any idea on when this bill come on the floor?
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