sanjay
12-19 02:02 PM
I have a question regarding the 180 day rule. I am a July 2nd filer, got EAD and AP and did my FP. my I-140 was also approved in oct 2007. So, I will be meeting the 180 day rule and I-140 approved criteria in jan 2nd,08.
Can I change job after Jan 2nd or I have to wait for 180 days from the time of 140 approval date. I think if its from 485 receipt date, I do meet 180 days rule and am safe to move on with another job/employer.
I know this question should had been asked by other members also, but I don't want to search all threads.
Looking for some genuine answers instead of thread bashings.
Thanks in Adv.
Can I change job after Jan 2nd or I have to wait for 180 days from the time of 140 approval date. I think if its from 485 receipt date, I do meet 180 days rule and am safe to move on with another job/employer.
I know this question should had been asked by other members also, but I don't want to search all threads.
Looking for some genuine answers instead of thread bashings.
Thanks in Adv.
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08-08 07:10 PM
Congrats Svinjamur !!
My wife and I received similar emails (Card production ordered). I just posted in a diff thread. Our 10-yr wait is over.
PD - Nov 2004
I-140 - approved 03/05
I-485 - RD - 08/07, ND - 10/03
CP ordered - 08/08
(one year and one day since we applied for AOS)
I got an email today from USCIS stating this
Current Status: Card production ordered.
I did not receive any other approval notice. I hope this means that our 485 is approved and the cards have been ordered ?
My PD Is May 2003
My wife and I received similar emails (Card production ordered). I just posted in a diff thread. Our 10-yr wait is over.
PD - Nov 2004
I-140 - approved 03/05
I-485 - RD - 08/07, ND - 10/03
CP ordered - 08/08
(one year and one day since we applied for AOS)
I got an email today from USCIS stating this
Current Status: Card production ordered.
I did not receive any other approval notice. I hope this means that our 485 is approved and the cards have been ordered ?
My PD Is May 2003
akhilmahajan
02-09 11:30 AM
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jags_e
07-07 11:01 AM
Though they didnot break any law in writing, they had the intent to not give any relief to people who are eligible to apply in july as per the old bulletin.
The intent itself is ulawful.
Alos in rushing to use all the visas, they might have given visas prematurely to applicants who had no clearence.
The only thing we could do guys , is to get a lot of media attention , make the whole world know about our problems....
If we dont get the GC yearly number increased for India , we should plan to go back,..
How long can i wait to file 485..
I am pretty much sure( i wish i am proven wrong) that the Lawsuits are not gonna help us.
They did nothing wrong legally , its a tradition that DOS doesnt change the visa bulletin in a month..ITS NOT A LAW.
The max we could get from a lawsuit is damages(financials) , and as USCIS is a fees funded organisatiom , its gonna come back to us
In one way we should be happy that the USCIS is cleaning its internal backlog,
The intent itself is ulawful.
Alos in rushing to use all the visas, they might have given visas prematurely to applicants who had no clearence.
The only thing we could do guys , is to get a lot of media attention , make the whole world know about our problems....
If we dont get the GC yearly number increased for India , we should plan to go back,..
How long can i wait to file 485..
I am pretty much sure( i wish i am proven wrong) that the Lawsuits are not gonna help us.
They did nothing wrong legally , its a tradition that DOS doesnt change the visa bulletin in a month..ITS NOT A LAW.
The max we could get from a lawsuit is damages(financials) , and as USCIS is a fees funded organisatiom , its gonna come back to us
In one way we should be happy that the USCIS is cleaning its internal backlog,
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diptam
06-23 10:51 AM
I believe we did sufficient Brain storming on this and the following bottom lines came out to extract EMPLOYER LETTER :-
a) Tell them softly you will bear expense for 485 on your own as you feel for company interests and growth perspectives and that may get hampered if company has to bear the cost of 485 for most employees together and request them to just issue you the EMP letter.
b) Tell them that your well Educated wife is getting frustrated day by day sitting at home and this 485 will give her the much needed freedom to go for a job or start some small business.
c) If they ask for a bond - talk to them sweetly , negotiate the bond wordings as much as possible and sign it - Try to keep some emails / voice mails saved and later on ( after Porting Jobs) use them to let your employer know that you are going to DEPT of LABOR to expose the whole story if they bug you or threaten you too much.
Following 2 are little more aggressive approaches (Single's can pursue)
d) If you have 2 yrs of H1B left tell them that you are simply leaving them because these days Perm + 140 takes 3-4 months for right employer and PD are all current.
e) Tell them that you are working with another company for a Labor substitution unless they issue EMP LETTER
Following one is a extreme risky approach and is not recommended
f) Some one mentioned about somehow getting a Letter head and helping
yourself .... But your whole efforts and money could be wasted at a later point of time.
here's my 2 cents.
There are still some labor subsitution available. Lot of desi company want to use them before 07/16 oherwise they willl lose everything. Tell ur employer that you are getting labor subsitution and just ned to change ur h1. if you are not going to issue a letter in 2days, I have my options open.
it may work.
a) Tell them softly you will bear expense for 485 on your own as you feel for company interests and growth perspectives and that may get hampered if company has to bear the cost of 485 for most employees together and request them to just issue you the EMP letter.
b) Tell them that your well Educated wife is getting frustrated day by day sitting at home and this 485 will give her the much needed freedom to go for a job or start some small business.
c) If they ask for a bond - talk to them sweetly , negotiate the bond wordings as much as possible and sign it - Try to keep some emails / voice mails saved and later on ( after Porting Jobs) use them to let your employer know that you are going to DEPT of LABOR to expose the whole story if they bug you or threaten you too much.
Following 2 are little more aggressive approaches (Single's can pursue)
d) If you have 2 yrs of H1B left tell them that you are simply leaving them because these days Perm + 140 takes 3-4 months for right employer and PD are all current.
e) Tell them that you are working with another company for a Labor substitution unless they issue EMP LETTER
Following one is a extreme risky approach and is not recommended
f) Some one mentioned about somehow getting a Letter head and helping
yourself .... But your whole efforts and money could be wasted at a later point of time.
here's my 2 cents.
There are still some labor subsitution available. Lot of desi company want to use them before 07/16 oherwise they willl lose everything. Tell ur employer that you are getting labor subsitution and just ned to change ur h1. if you are not going to issue a letter in 2days, I have my options open.
it may work.
newu77
08-20 04:15 PM
I called on friday. Had to explain the lady that as per press-release, my receipt number should be issued. After 20 minutes of discussions, she escalated my call to another officer. She checked the database with my name, DOB and A# but she could not find any thing related to I-485.
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07-19 06:53 PM
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02-09 12:41 PM
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gauravster
07-08 04:30 PM
You are incorrect on multiple accounts.
But, before going there, let me ask you this. What is your legal reasoning to dispute the case you have mentioned?
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The legal reasoning is "Civil Rights Act of 1964" which applies to all individuals employed by a US employer in the US and to US citizens employed by US employers outside the US.
But, before going there, let me ask you this. What is your legal reasoning to dispute the case you have mentioned?
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The legal reasoning is "Civil Rights Act of 1964" which applies to all individuals employed by a US employer in the US and to US citizens employed by US employers outside the US.
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vxg
11-21 09:35 AM
Gurus,
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
Mehul,
Really sorry to hear that but i do believe that with medical advances you will have a chance. Try to seek best medical care and advise. As others i suggest making an info pass appointment and discuss with an IO i am sure they will help.
I will pray for you and your family.
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
Mehul,
Really sorry to hear that but i do believe that with medical advances you will have a chance. Try to seek best medical care and advise. As others i suggest making an info pass appointment and discuss with an IO i am sure they will help.
I will pray for you and your family.
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abracadabra
07-07 11:03 PM
Where you getting your number from? Did you already set up poll?
I appreciate your time in answering in asking this question. I am real serious about this issue. I am positive I can get more, as you know we desi have a very sleepy community, if we kick their as*** they all will come.
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priderock
06-27 04:12 PM
I am really surprised that you guys are contemplating on going against your employer for a employment letter and filing your GC. I mean, how hard is it for you guys to agree to the terms of your employer that you will work till you get your GC and upto 6 months beyond that..
If you guys came before 2001-2002 and seen how the situation was for green card filers you will now what I am talking about..
1. There was no concurrent filing of I-140/485
2. There was no premium processing for Labor
3. There was no premium processing for I-140
4. There was no AC-21, so there is no way of switching jobs..
Still it used to take 4-5 years to get a GC.
And you guys are complaining about your employer because you worked for 1-2 years and you want to quit as soon as you get EAD..
Just imagine what would have happened if the dates were not CURRENT.. How many more years you would have worked, cursing USCIS
Your greed will ruin you in future, just like you are cursing your employer's greed..
Also, before you curse your employer, it was you who joined the company and you had many months to find out what kind of employer you have and it quit the company long time back.. You could have switched to different company long time back..
I agree , and if the cost of leaving this stupid employer is just $10K, I would gladly pay and have some peace of mind.
Also don't make decissions based on the current provisions/laws only. It is safe to assume you are going to be with your employer (who filed your GC) until you get your GC. You make a decision assuming that you can use AC21 after 6 months, but what happens if they remove AC21 in two months ??? People got burned when they assume status quo with the laws/provisions and they subsequently change.
If you guys came before 2001-2002 and seen how the situation was for green card filers you will now what I am talking about..
1. There was no concurrent filing of I-140/485
2. There was no premium processing for Labor
3. There was no premium processing for I-140
4. There was no AC-21, so there is no way of switching jobs..
Still it used to take 4-5 years to get a GC.
And you guys are complaining about your employer because you worked for 1-2 years and you want to quit as soon as you get EAD..
Just imagine what would have happened if the dates were not CURRENT.. How many more years you would have worked, cursing USCIS
Your greed will ruin you in future, just like you are cursing your employer's greed..
Also, before you curse your employer, it was you who joined the company and you had many months to find out what kind of employer you have and it quit the company long time back.. You could have switched to different company long time back..
I agree , and if the cost of leaving this stupid employer is just $10K, I would gladly pay and have some peace of mind.
Also don't make decissions based on the current provisions/laws only. It is safe to assume you are going to be with your employer (who filed your GC) until you get your GC. You make a decision assuming that you can use AC21 after 6 months, but what happens if they remove AC21 in two months ??? People got burned when they assume status quo with the laws/provisions and they subsequently change.
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svanb
12-18 06:51 PM
Hi,
All the posts above are good coping measures, and some are used to actually deal with depressive symptoms. However they have missed the MOST important one! You used the term clinical depression. Please if you truly feel that way seek help, and seek it now, talk to your doctor or to a councilor. Though I won't go into details, I am speaking from personal experience. Sometimes things build up so much that we slip into such a state where we go beyond sadness and frustration and move to true depression.
From a site on depression: Depression is a disorder that affects your thoughts, moods, feelings, behavior and even your physical health. People used to think it was "all in your head" and that if you really tried, you could "snap out of it" or just "get over it." But doctors now know that depression is not a weakness, and it's not something you can treat on your own. Depression is a medical disorder with a biological and chemical basis.
Sometimes a stressful life event triggers depression. Other times depression seems to occur spontaneously with no identifiable specific cause. Depression is much more than grieving or a bout of the blues.
Depression, true clinical depression, is nothing you can cure with a trip to somewhere else, or having people point out to you how much better you are off than this person or that one. I am linking one of many sites that are out there, please read it and if you really do have the symptoms do what it suggests. Or Google "Clinical Depression" (beware of sites trying to sell drugs, usually easy to tell as they tend to recommend their drug as the only solutions.):
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/depression/DS00175
Never be afraid to ask for help! The state of uncertainty can eat away at all of us and undermine our self confidence.
To all that are here; May all our dreams come true, our green card and our futures! The positive supporting words you have offered are always a help and a light of hope.
All the posts above are good coping measures, and some are used to actually deal with depressive symptoms. However they have missed the MOST important one! You used the term clinical depression. Please if you truly feel that way seek help, and seek it now, talk to your doctor or to a councilor. Though I won't go into details, I am speaking from personal experience. Sometimes things build up so much that we slip into such a state where we go beyond sadness and frustration and move to true depression.
From a site on depression: Depression is a disorder that affects your thoughts, moods, feelings, behavior and even your physical health. People used to think it was "all in your head" and that if you really tried, you could "snap out of it" or just "get over it." But doctors now know that depression is not a weakness, and it's not something you can treat on your own. Depression is a medical disorder with a biological and chemical basis.
Sometimes a stressful life event triggers depression. Other times depression seems to occur spontaneously with no identifiable specific cause. Depression is much more than grieving or a bout of the blues.
Depression, true clinical depression, is nothing you can cure with a trip to somewhere else, or having people point out to you how much better you are off than this person or that one. I am linking one of many sites that are out there, please read it and if you really do have the symptoms do what it suggests. Or Google "Clinical Depression" (beware of sites trying to sell drugs, usually easy to tell as they tend to recommend their drug as the only solutions.):
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/depression/DS00175
Never be afraid to ask for help! The state of uncertainty can eat away at all of us and undermine our self confidence.
To all that are here; May all our dreams come true, our green card and our futures! The positive supporting words you have offered are always a help and a light of hope.
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04-05 11:12 PM
I am not sure if opening SR helps, especially for TSC. I opened SR 30 days ago and still waiting. They have not scheduled me yet for an appointment.
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05-05 04:52 PM
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kshitijnt
05-10 09:22 PM
Too bad you did not bother reading up on the net before you took your job. I researched what is involved prior to leaving grad school and I knew it was a long wait. Like I said quota is there because of numbers / diversity. US needs programmers from more than just one country.
And its not really a quota since numbers are rolled at the end of the year to oversubscribed countries. Your notion of separate queues derives from your ignorance of how immigration works. Why hasn't anyone challenged the quota in the Supreme Court ?
Maybe we will. If community comes together. Lawsuit requires lot of money. There is a saying in India that a wise man should never climb the steps of the court, however; after repeated insults and discriminations he becomes unwise. And good that you read the rules, but you said something like grad school? Was it US grad school? Dont you know criterion and intention on F1 is to go back? I came here on H1 directly. At that time, I was too young and naive to see the sandtraps. You cant blame for someone falling in a well disguised hole.
And its not really a quota since numbers are rolled at the end of the year to oversubscribed countries. Your notion of separate queues derives from your ignorance of how immigration works. Why hasn't anyone challenged the quota in the Supreme Court ?
Maybe we will. If community comes together. Lawsuit requires lot of money. There is a saying in India that a wise man should never climb the steps of the court, however; after repeated insults and discriminations he becomes unwise. And good that you read the rules, but you said something like grad school? Was it US grad school? Dont you know criterion and intention on F1 is to go back? I came here on H1 directly. At that time, I was too young and naive to see the sandtraps. You cant blame for someone falling in a well disguised hole.
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newu77
08-17 04:57 PM
I-485 delivered at 10:25 on July 2, 2007 in LINCOLN, NE (NSC)
Signed by J BARRET.
I-140 approved from TSC
I-140 LUD on 07/28/2007
No receipts Yet.
Signed by J BARRET.
I-140 approved from TSC
I-140 LUD on 07/28/2007
No receipts Yet.
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sledge_hammer
07-08 11:45 AM
I think what has happened here is that DOS was frustrated with the pace in which USCIS was processing applications. So in order to push them to work faster, they made all categories current. This strategy worked and USCIS approved 60,000 visa in 15 0r 20 or however many days.
Then USCIS communicated with DOS that annual quota has been exhausted and thus DOS published the revised bulletin.
My 2 cents.
Then USCIS communicated with DOS that annual quota has been exhausted and thus DOS published the revised bulletin.
My 2 cents.
asdcrajnet
02-02 01:52 PM
Nobody is holding them back and that is the very reason they are planning to go back... got it ?
Your rant in the post of all things, especially about the caste system seems like the half baked knowledge of a westerner bloating and carrying the caste "issue" to stratospheric levels!
I don't from what area in India exposed you to your experiences, but apart from the ridiculous reservations and quota system, there have been no caste related issues that I or my family faced while in western India. Be it working with people from all castes, making friends with them or really helping the neglected. This was the case with my neighbors or any relatives.
Looking at the numerous corruption scandals and making a hoopla about it or relating it tightly to the ancient family values (that India has) that one can give to the children is quite narrow minded. For that matter I can make a big list of scandals in almost every country. There were numerous scandals in 80's and 90's in India - that didn't affect the kind of right values my parents imparted in my siblings or I. I can say the same for my several friends.
Things are in constant flux in any country - while the divorce rate, teenage mothers, suicide rate was very low in the early 1900's in the US, it went up by orders of magnitude in the last 50 years. Teenage smoking was rampant in the 70's and 80's it went down dramatically after that.
People wanted to free themselves from the rigid value system and hence the 1960's and 70's hippie movement - what did they do - drugs, sex and alcohol - didn't go anywhere (remnants of which we still see in the US "culture") ! They turned themselves to service, philanthropy and spirituality and found a new way of looking at things - great things have happened thro' the initiatives of these Americans.
Having a static view of things is really claustrophobic and is a seed of frustration and negativity. Generalizing everything is even worse.
To understand the culture of India, you need to scratch deeper and assimilate it.
I simply love this post. I am not a Pro US or a Pro India guy. I have seen many back home complaining about culture in US. I have also see many in US complaining caste/corruption/politics/quota system in India. I don't agree with either.
Every country has pluses & minuses. Just take the positiveness from every culture/country and lead a happy life.
Your rant in the post of all things, especially about the caste system seems like the half baked knowledge of a westerner bloating and carrying the caste "issue" to stratospheric levels!
I don't from what area in India exposed you to your experiences, but apart from the ridiculous reservations and quota system, there have been no caste related issues that I or my family faced while in western India. Be it working with people from all castes, making friends with them or really helping the neglected. This was the case with my neighbors or any relatives.
Looking at the numerous corruption scandals and making a hoopla about it or relating it tightly to the ancient family values (that India has) that one can give to the children is quite narrow minded. For that matter I can make a big list of scandals in almost every country. There were numerous scandals in 80's and 90's in India - that didn't affect the kind of right values my parents imparted in my siblings or I. I can say the same for my several friends.
Things are in constant flux in any country - while the divorce rate, teenage mothers, suicide rate was very low in the early 1900's in the US, it went up by orders of magnitude in the last 50 years. Teenage smoking was rampant in the 70's and 80's it went down dramatically after that.
People wanted to free themselves from the rigid value system and hence the 1960's and 70's hippie movement - what did they do - drugs, sex and alcohol - didn't go anywhere (remnants of which we still see in the US "culture") ! They turned themselves to service, philanthropy and spirituality and found a new way of looking at things - great things have happened thro' the initiatives of these Americans.
Having a static view of things is really claustrophobic and is a seed of frustration and negativity. Generalizing everything is even worse.
To understand the culture of India, you need to scratch deeper and assimilate it.
I simply love this post. I am not a Pro US or a Pro India guy. I have seen many back home complaining about culture in US. I have also see many in US complaining caste/corruption/politics/quota system in India. I don't agree with either.
Every country has pluses & minuses. Just take the positiveness from every culture/country and lead a happy life.
desi3933
06-28 07:08 AM
A note to my fellow IV members - I am not after the $42/Hr job. Good luck in finding a US citizen to do this job. I was wrong about EEO, it is actually IRCA which prohibits discrimination in recruitment and hiring.
Best Practices for hiring workers from Department of Justice (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/htm/best_practices.htm)
Thanks, Walking_Dude, for putting this link.
As per web page on this link -Do allow all employees (including non-U.S. citizens) to provide any permissible documents to establish their identity or work authorization during the employment verification process.This will exclude applicants on H-1B visa status as they don't have work authorization to work for the new employer.
However, as I said before, Employer can not discriminate between GC holder, EAD, and OPT holder.
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Best Practices for hiring workers from Department of Justice (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/htm/best_practices.htm)
Thanks, Walking_Dude, for putting this link.
As per web page on this link -Do allow all employees (including non-U.S. citizens) to provide any permissible documents to establish their identity or work authorization during the employment verification process.This will exclude applicants on H-1B visa status as they don't have work authorization to work for the new employer.
However, as I said before, Employer can not discriminate between GC holder, EAD, and OPT holder.
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